Kimberly Rhodes & David Heinemeier Hansson + Jason Fried , REWORK

The Subtle Art of Staying Out of It

29 May 2024 • 27 min • EN
27 min
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In this episode, REWORK host Kimberly Rhodes, talks with Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson, co-founders of 37signals, about the importance of stepping out of the day-to-day operations as a founder. Giving employees room to call the shots can spark new ideas and get things done faster. It also inspires people to think beyond just following orders. Key Takeaways: 00:34 - The result of holding your grip too tight in your organization  02:36 - Find the middle ground between projects you should be directly involved in and those that can be managed by others 08:38 - Giving employees the freedom to make decisions can lead to increased productivity and better ideas 10:20 - Stepping in when it"s necessary to realign urgency or quality 12:54 - Not all opinions weigh the same 15:28 - Trying to be involved in every task or decision reduces the organization"s effectiveness 22:48 - Intent prompts people to think independently instead of just following a set of instructions, as described in the book Turn the Ship Around. Links and Resources: Staying Out of It Blog Post by Jason Fried Turn The Ship Around book Blue Ocean Strategy book Books by 37signals Sign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.com HEY World | HEY The REWORK podcast The Rework Podcast on YouTube The 37signals Dev Blog 37signals on YouTube @37signals on X

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