Consciousness vs The Ruliad | Stephen Wolfram Λ Donald Hoffman

In this episode Stephen Wolfram and Donald Hoffman discuss their competing frameworks for understanding reality and consciousness. Wolfram introduces the Ruliad, a computational multiverse that generates all possible mathematical structures, while Hoffman argues that consciousness is fundamental and that we only perceive a user interface of reality. The conversation explores how these perspectives intersect, clash, and what they imply for the future of science. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices