Donald Hoffman Λ Joscha Bach on Consciousness, Free Will, Gödel, and Computational Reality

In this episode Donald Hoffman and Joscha Bach explore consciousness, free will, Gödel’s incompleteness, and whether reality is computational. They debate the limits of a Theory of Everything and examine how physical and algorithmic worlds intersect.- 00:00:00 - Introduction- 00:03:34 - Theory of Everything possible? / Definition of Consciousness- 00:08:32 - Spacetime's fundamental nature (or not)- 00:14:27 - Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness- 00:34:40 - Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally- 00:42:01 - Physical world vs Computational world- 00:57:57 - Gödel and changing the definition of truth to provable / computable- 01:12:33 - Mind parts that make statements beyond computation- 01:13:57 - Real numbers don't exist?- 01:15:23 - [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic- 01:34:02 - Donald Hoffman on Free Will- 01:44:03 - Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists- 01:57:10 - Changes in Bach's model if classical logic was correct- 02:07:42 - Penrose and Lucas argument regarding Gödel and the mind- 02:13:55 - Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other's workSPONSORS:- Brilliant: 20% off - https://brilliant.org/TOE- Algo YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ- Algo website - https://www.algo.com/- Patreon - https://patreon.com/curtjaimungal- Crypto donation - https://tinyurl.com/cryptoTOE- PayPal donation - https://tinyurl.com/paypalTOE- Twitter - https://twitter.com/TOEwithCurt- Discord - https://discord.com/invite/kBcnfNVwqs- Apple Podcasts - https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal/id1521758802- Pandora - https://pdora.co/33b9lfP- Spotify - https://open.spotify.com/show/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e- Reddit - https://reddit.com/r/theoriesofeverything- Merch - https://tinyurl.com/TOEmerchRESOURCES:- YouTube - https://youtu.be/bhSlYfVtgww- QBism Paper - https://arxiv.org/abs/1003.5209- Donald Hoffman's book The Case Against Reality (affiliate) - https://amzn.to/34eWmxz- Plato and the Nerd (affiliate) - https://amzn.to/34GMexr- Better Left Unsaid documentary - http://betterleftunsaidfilm.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices