Amy Edmondson , HR Leaders

The Right Kind of Wrong with Amy Edmondson

08 Feb 2024 • 31 min • EN
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In this episode of the HR Leaders Podcast, I was joined by acclaimed Harvard Business School Professor Amy C. Edmondson. Amy's latest research and book, "The Right Kind of Wrong: The Science of Failing Well," examines a topic most business leaders shy away from - how to productively learn from our failures and mistakes. 👉 Subscribe to HR Leaders: 🎙️ Listen on your favourite platform: 👤 Follow Chris on LinkedIn: See Greatness Everywhere with Eightfold Powered by deep-learning AI, Eightfold’s unrivalled Talent Intelligence Platform shows you what you need, when you need it. Whether you’re finding or developing talent, their skills-driven approach backed by their unparalleled talent insights enables the outcomes you need to stay ahead. Explore the Platform: Episode highlights 00:00 - What you will learn 01:42 - Why study organizational failure? 02:38 - Learning from mistakes is essential 04:23 - The different types of failures 05:33 - What makes a "good" failure? 07:16 - How errors often have multiple causes 08:22 - Learn from complex failures by speaking up 09:21 - Practices to prevent complex failures 13:19 - Chris' story of innovating in silence 15:24 - Why the stigma around failure 16:15 - Successful people fail more 17:20 - Hiring those comfortable with failure 18:35 - Growth mindset from sports/military 19:24 - How schools instils binary pass/fail mindset 20:49 - Reframing failure as getting better 22:02 - Not all failures are alike 22:43 - Differentiating mistakes and failures 24:01 - Most successful companies fail more 25:09 - Need for psychological safety 25:58 - Discomfort enables growth 26:49 - Biggest misconception about failure 27:55 - Amy's current and future research 29:00 - Practical steps for organizations 29:46 - Link to employee experience About HR Leaders Podcast: Join Chris Rainey as he chats with the world's top Chief People Officers, CHRO’s and industry experts who share their experience, insights, lessons learned and how they are shaping the future of work for business and society. See Privacy Policy at and California Privacy Notice at

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