Rob Walling on multiple projects, why building an audience is dumb and other SaaS wisdom

Rob Walling is an absolute legend in the bootstrapping and indie scene. He’s a veteran entrepreneur with his most notable exit being Drip in 2016. Rob also founded MicroConf, started TinySeed and is the host of the Startups for the Rest of Us podcast, which has over 680 episodes having started in 2010. It doesn’t stop there for Rob, he’s also written 4 books, Start Small Stay Small, Start Marketing the Day You Start Coding, The Entrepreneurs Guide to Keeping Your Shit Together and most recently, The SaaS Playbook. Get the hour long episode here: https://indiebites.com/membership Timestamps00:00 Intro / Sponsor02:03 Why Rob wouldn't do SaaS again03:43 What would an alternative reality look like for Rob05:46 Founder retreats07:40 Building an audience first approach is dumb for SaaS10:29 Building a network12:38 Portfolio of projects15:26 Recommendations RecommendationsBook: Founding Sales, Deploy EmpathyPodcast: Comic LabIndie Hacker: Ruben Gamez Follow RobTwitterWebsite My linksTwitterIndie Bites TwitterIndie Bites YouTubeJoin the membershipPersonal Website2 Hour Podcast CoursePodPanda (hire me to edit your podcast)This Indie Life Podcast Sponsor - EmailOctopus 🐙 EmailOctopus is an independently owned email marketing platform, built to support other small growing businesses. With a focus on affordability and ease of use, EmailOctopus contains all of the features you need to reach and grow your audience. You can start today, with their industry leading free plan where you can contact up to 2,500 subscribers without paying a penny.