Forrest Hanson + Rick Hanson & Richard Schwartz , Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Internal Family Systems: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with Dr. Richard Schwartz

15 Jan 2024 • 79 min • EN
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Dr. Rick and Forrest are joined by Dr. Richard Schwartz, creator of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model of therapy, to explore how we can integrate all the aspects of who we are. They explain the IFS model, the nature of parts and their roles, and how we can use this knowledge to increase self-awareness and deal with common problems. Then Rick and Dr. Schwartz dive deep into the nature of the “Self,” where it comes from, and how we can tune into and strengthen it. This was a wide-ranging conversation, and we were thrilled to have Dr. Schwartz on the podcast again. You won’t want to miss this one. About our Guest: Dr. Richard “Dick” Schwartz is the creator of the Internal Family Systems (IFS) model of therapy, and has authored a number of books and over fifty articles focused on IFS. His newest book is No Bad Parts: Healing Trauma and Restoring Wholeness with the Internal Family Systems Model. Forrest is now writing on Substack, check out his work there.  Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 2:15: Quick explanation of the IFS Model 6:45: Releasing the “Self” 11:10: Where does the Self come from? 16:00: How the practical side of IFS connects to the spiritual 23:20: The four goals of IFS, and parts of parts 26:15: Becoming your own attachment figure 32:15: Richard’s experience integrating his exiled parts 37:25: Personification in IFS. Why think in terms of “parts”?  46:15: Why befriend our “bad” parts? 49:55: The non-pathologizing nature of IFS in a clinical framework 55:25: First and second darts 57:15: Identifying parts with curiosity, courage, and physical awareness 1:03:25: How asking yourself questions gets you in touch with your intuition 1:12:45: Recap You can watch this episode on YouTube. Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors: Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit for 10% off your first month! Want to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit for 40% off a premium subscription. Zocdoc helps you find expert doctors and medical professionals that specialize in the care you need, and deliver the type of experience you want. Head to and download the Zocdoc app for FREE. Connect with the show:Subscribe on iTunesFollow Forrest on YouTubeFollow us on InstagramFollow Forrest on InstagramFollow Rick on FacebookFollow Forrest on FacebookVisit Forrest's website

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