Everybody Works

37signals" co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson discuss their unique approach of operating without full-time managers. They reflect on the company"s experience with full-time managers and share why they"ve moved to a flatter organization. Key Takeaways:00:54 - The before and after of 37signals" experience with full-time managers08:34 - The founders thoughts on being directly involved in the business10:36 - Why the company"s management hierarchy works best for the founders17:17 - 37signals" career ladder doesn"t necessarily mean people leadership20:03 - What company size makes sense for having more management layers Links and Resources:HEY World post – We once more have no full-time managers at 37signalsBooks by 37signalsSign up for a 30-day free trial at Basecamp.comHEY World | HEYThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X