You don't need more code. You need more business impact. | Thoughtworks' Chris Westerhold

15 Jul 2025 • 59 min • EN
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Is your engineering team shipping more code but creating less business impact? We"re joined by Chris Westerhold, Global Practice Director at ThoughtWorks, to confront why engineering waste is so difficult to define and eliminate. He explains that for many teams, the issue isn"t a lack of tools but a lack of a clear "North Star" to align their efforts with real business goals, diving into why so much well-intentioned work results in wasted effort and increased friction. Chris argues that most efficiency problems are rooted in people and processes, not technology, and why a "systems thinking" approach is crucial for real improvement. He shares insights on balancing developer freedom with platform standardization and the leadership required to build a culture of continuous improvement. Learn why focusing on better outcomes—not just more code—is the key to unlocking your team"s true potential. Check out:The DevEx guide to AI-driven software developmentWorkshop: The AI upgrade to your SDLC Follow the hosts:Follow BenFollow Andrew Follow today"s guest(s):LinkedIn: Chris WesterholdLearn more at ThoughtWorks.com Referenced in today"s show:Atlassian research: AI adoption is rising, but friction persistsThe New Skill in AI is Not Prompting, It"s Context EngineeringIntroducing pay per crawl: enabling content owners to charge AI crawlers for access Meta poached Apple’s head of foundation models with $200M offer - 9to5Mac OpenAI Poaches 4 High-Ranking Engineers From Tesla, xAI, and Meta | WIRED  Support the show: Subscribe to our Substack Leave us a review Subscribe on YouTube Follow us on Twitter or LinkedIn Offers: Learn about Continuous Merge with gitStream Get your DORA Metrics free forever

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