Why Great CISOs Are Never Bored

14 Apr 2025 • 43 min • EN
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Jake Bernardes, CISO at Anecdotes, brings a uniquely adventurous spirit to this week’s show! And his ethos of “Don’t be an a**hole” is certainly one we can get behind. George K and George A talk to Jake about: Jake's "inherent risk-taker" philosophy that's guided his career moves Why the best CISOs are "repulsed by the idea of being bored" and how that drives innovation The changing face of security leadership - from risk-averse consultants to today’s disruptive problem solvers His refreshingly honest take on how CISOs should interact with vendors: "Just don't be an a**hole" Whether you're in the trenches, pitching security tools, or running a whole damn cyber program, Jake drops serious insights you can use. ———— 👊⚡️Support the show! For as little as $1 a month, you can support the show and get exclusive member benefits, or send a one-time gift! https://ko-fi.com/bareknucklesbrasstacks Your contribution covers our hosting fees, helps us make cool events and swag, and it lets us know that what we're doing is of value to you. We appreciate you!

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