Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
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This week Savannah Sly, dominatrix and sex worker rights advocate, joins the show to talk about privacy, power, and the nuances of human intimacy as generative AI takes hold. George K and George A talk to Savannah about: The current state of privacy for vulnerable communities and the real-world operational security c
Season 4 is here! While George K and George A are in Las Vegas for Black Hat and DEFCON this week, here's a preview of some changes coming to the podcast. We're grateful for every listener. Thank you for being on this journey with us!
The AI-human future: Collapsing silos, leveling up teams, and investing in builders
Rinki Sethi joins the show this week! She's held just security leadership roles on just about all possible sides, and now she's also a VC investing in the next generation of founders. George K and George A talk to Rinki about: Real talk and timeline on AI in SecOps How security teams are gonna get reorganized around AI
Kendrick Trotter joins the show to talk about going from Uber driver to a major account executive at a public cybersecurity company, then founding his own business that created over $70 million in annualized salaries for underrepresented professionals. George K and George A talk to Kendrick about: How a Division I foot
George K and George A went completely off-script this week and recorded their first one-on-one episode in years. Fair warning: it gets heated about some industry trends that have been grinding their gears. George K and George A get into: The AI hype cycle vs. actual utility as George K articulates step by step how he u
Tanya Janca joins the show this week, with unique perspective on building secure software and advocating for better cybersecurity policy. George K and George A talk to Tanya about: Her transition from 14 years as a Canadian public servant to private sector entrepreneurship The core values that guide her work: performin