Bare Knuckles and Brass Tacks
Hosted by two guys named George on either side of the divide, this is a cybersecurity podcast that tackles the relationship between vendors and their customers. George Kamide is on the security vendor side, and George Al-Koura is a CISO on the customer side. Vendors gotta sell, and companies need tooling to protect their data. Tune in to hear real conversations from opposing sides of the pitch about cybersecurity marketing, sales, and go to market strategies. We go after these topics and bad practices with bare knuckles, then it’s down to brass tacks to look for solutions. Tune in to hear from guests from either side, including CISOs, SMEs, sales leaders, frontline account managers, and more!
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Dr. Kashyap "Kash" Thimmaraju joins the show to talk about a new study on burnout, wellbeing, and flow state in security operations.George K and George A talk to Kash about: New research using psychologically validated scales to measure burnout in cybersecurity professionals How "flow state" might be the key to better
Recorded LIVE at RSAC 2025: Don Jeter, Chief Meme Officer at Torq returns! He breaks down how Torq built a cult brand in cybersecurity around their "SOAR is Dead" campaign. George K and George A talk to Don about: Harnessing creativity in an era of algorithmic optimization: “You're not remembered for the safe ideas eve
George K and George A are off to San Francisco for RSAC 2025 this week. Here are some short musings on what they think they might see... Mentioned: Chase Cunningham has built an app that lets you rank vendor demos in real time! If you'd like to join the effort, you can do so here: https://10ringvendors.glide.page
“When you look at cybersecurity…we've got to be constantly thinking about how we disrupt ourselves in order to actually solve the problem." Casey Ellis is a hacker, a founder, and an advisor and investor. Occupying a lot of different vantage points in cyber has given him a very unique perspective on the industry. Georg
Jake Bernardes, CISO at Anecdotes, brings a uniquely adventurous spirit to this week’s show! And his ethos of “Don’t be an a**hole” is certainly one we can get behind. George K and George A talk to Jake about: Jake's "inherent risk-taker" philosophy that's guided his career moves Why the best CISOs are "repulsed by the
George K and George A are out this week to keynote SecureWorld Toronto and host the Cyber Pitch Battle Royale. Catch up on interviews you may have missed with: Stacey Lokey-Day on collecting experiences to build your career Candace Williams on the keys to networking Allan Alford on the best ways vendors can engage with