02 - Sarah Haider - Separating Ideas from People

Tea for Two: A podcast about politics, culture and society and about how everyone is wrong except us. With Iona Italia, Helen Pluckrose and guests. Episode 2: Sarah Haider More on Sarah's organisation, Ex Muslims of North America, can be found here: http://exmuslims.org. You can follow Sarah Haider on Twitter, https://www.twitter.com/SarahTheHaider. You'll also find her published articles in the online magazine, Free Inquiry. Sarah's talks have been featured on YouTube. This podcast has been brought to you in association with Areo magazine. To support us, visit our Patreon page here: https://www.patreon.com/Areo 2:17 Why Sarah hates the term community 11:15 The different types of atheists 15:00 Cleaning up the left, why we focus on that 23:32 Atheists in India 25:00 Arguments that now’s not the time to stick to certain principles because we need to fight Trump 27:00 Intersectionality and the prioritising of certain groups over others 28:21 Opposing both racism & Islamic extremism 28:57 The Left and Islam 33:56 Insincerity in dialogue, language as signalling 45:17 Separating ideas from people in the case of Muslims 49:05 The Intellectual Dark Web 55:47 The risks of honesty and activism—Sarah’s experience of the smears & taints that come with that. The temptation to join a tribe. 1:07:29 Sarah on genetic differences, race & the idea of human dignity 1:10 Science, ethics and how to use data; dealing with embarrassing facts 1:15 Second-generation Muslims in the US versus in Europe 1:17 The melting pot versus the mosaic model of integration: immigrants and identity, including Sarah’s own experiences 1:26 Sarah’s own relationship to religion