Skeptic editor Michael Shermer talks to Quillette's Jonathan Kay about Holocaust denialists, Social Justice Warriors and how to debunk toxic ideologies

Skeptic editor Michael Shermer talks to Quillette's Jonathan Kay about Holocaust denialists, Social Justice Warriors, the importance of bringing reason and science to bear on political debates, and why it is that smart people believe dumb things. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices