Scott Barry Kaufman & Robert Greene

Robert Greene || Strategy, Seduction, and the Sublime

30 Dec 2021

From "The Psychology Podcast with Scott Barry Kaufman"

In this episode, I talk to international bestselling author Robert Greene about strategy, seduction, and the sublime. Robert implores us to get comfortable with the dark side of human nature and society. He argues that by acknowledging the reality of human interactions, we can use certain strategies to help us effectively navigate the workplace, our relationships, and daily life. We also touch on the topics of empathy, imagination, charisma, power, and his upcoming book on transcendence and the sublime. Chatting with Robert is always such a delight as we have many mutual areas of interest. I have been a long-time admirer of his books, and remember reading them in college and thinking that he seems to just get it. I hope you enjoyed this high-level discussion as much as I did. Bio Robert Greene is an author and speaker known for his books on strategy, power and seduction. He graduated from U.C. Berkeley and the University of Wisconsin at Madison with a degree in classical studies. He has written six international bestsellers: The 48 Laws of Power, The Art of Seduction, The 33 Strategies of War, The 50th Law, Mastery, and The Laws of Human Nature. Recently, he published The Daily Laws: 366 Meditations on Power, Seduction, Mastery. Greene’s books are hailed by everyone from war historians to the biggest musicians in the industry including Jay-Z, Drake, and 50 Cent. Website: Twitter: @RobertGreene   Topics 00:02:12 Robert’s health  00:03:43 The Daily Laws  00:04:58 What is a radical realist?  00:10:10 Empathy is like a telepathic connection 00:14:59 The human desire for fantasy 00:18:50 Etiquette is deception 00:22:17 How to live with the harsh truths of reality 00:28:03 Poeticize your presence 00:31:16 Channel pain into charisma 00:35:36 Stop being so nice all the time 00:39:08 Mix harshness and kindness 00:42:36 The primary law of human nature  00:46:08 Embrace your dark side 00:50:33 Schadenfreude vs mitfreude 00:53:46 The Pygmalion Effect 00:56:17 The integration of the shadow 01:02:05 The Law of the Sublime 01:08:14 The “post-mortem life” 01:10:03 The sublime is in the everyday