Ivan Burazin, Daytona on AI computers, $300K ARR sacrifice and racing competitors on a moving train

12 Nov 2025 • 40 min • EN
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In this episode of Dev Propulsion Labs, Daytona CEO Ivan Burazin reveals why he walked away from $300K ARR to rebuild his company from scratch for the age of AI agents. He explains why agents will outnumber humans "to the power of ten," how Daytona creates composable computers that agents can spin up on demand, and what it means to race competitors while the entire market moves at breakneck speed. Ivan shares hard-won lessons from 16 years building cloud development environments, starting with Codeanywhere in 2009 - a decade before the market was ready. Episode notes: https://evilmartians.com/events/podcast-ivan-burazin-daytona Follow us on X: https://x.com/dpl_pod Recorded at Chroma. Vector, full-text, regex, and metadata search. Develop locally and scale to petabytes in the cloud backed by object storage. Serverless search and retrieval that is fast, cheap, and reliable. https://www.trychroma.com Evil Martians is the go-to agency for early-stage developer tools startups: https://evilmartians.com/devtools Links: Daytona: https://www.daytona.io/ Ivan Burazin on X: https://x.com/ivanburazin Evil Martians on X: https://x.com/evilmartians Victoria Melnikova on X: https://x.com/vmelnikova_en Evil Martians for devtools: https://evilmartians.com/devtools

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