
Dev Propulsion Labs
Dev Propulsion Labs is a podcast about the business of developer tools. Hosts from the Evil Martians team interview prominent dev tools founders with the goal of sharing knowledge in the maturing developer tool and commercial open source industry.
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Sarah Wooders on why LLMs are like Memento and building the infrastructure for stateful AI agents
Join us for a conversation with Sarah Wooders, CTO & co-founder of Letta AI, as she reveals why LLMs are not there yet and how stateful agents will unlock the next generation of AI applications. From Berkeley PhD to YC alum to building the infrastructure for truly intelligent agents. Key insights from this episode. On
Join us for an incredible conversation with Adam Frankl - author, advisor, investor, and the final boss of development marketing. In this episode, we dive deep into the biggest challenges facing developer tool startups in 2025 and how to overcome them. On the AI boom opportunity: 2025 has gotta be the best year ever fo

Jason Bosco on building a profitable search engine serving 10 billion searches without VC funding
Jason Bosco, CEO and co-founder of TypeSense, shares how he and his co-founder built a profitable search engine serving 10 billion searches monthly without taking VC funding. From Dollar Shave Club VP of Engineering to bootstrapped founder, Jason reveals the unconventional path to building sustainable developer tools.

Anna Veronika Dorogush on why having high-density talent on the team is crucial for Recraft
Anna Veronika Dorogush, founder and CEO of Recraft, reveals how she built one of the world's leading AI image generation platforms by solving real professional design problems instead of chasing AI hype. Some key insights: "My whole back-end team is medalists and finalists of World Championship in programming." Strong

Michael Magán, co-founder at tambo ai, on how a friendly octopus makes AI more approachable
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José Valim on feeding desire to learn, healthy Elixir ecosystem and the future of AI tooling
José Valim, creator of Elixir and founder of Dashbit, shares how he built one of the most loved programming languages by following curiosity over market trends. Key insights for devtool founders: - Build for yourself first - José's "selfish" approach of creating tools he actually wants to use led to authentic adoption