Dev Propulsion Labs
Dev Propulsion Labs is a podcast about the business of developer tools. Hosts from the Evil Martians team interview prominent dev tools founders with the goal of sharing knowledge in the maturing developer tool and commercial open source industry.
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Paul Copplestone of Supabase on low ego teams, meme workshops, and building for the next generation
In this episode of Dev Propulsion Labs, Supabase CEO Paul Copplestone reveals why hiring ex-founders with beaten-down egos builds better products, how internal meme workshops became part of their culture, and why vibe coding isn't a bubble that will burst. He shares the accidental origin of Launch Weeks, explains why S
Sam Lambert of PlanetScale on surviving AWS outages and the real cost of extreme fault tolerance
Sam Lambert of PlanetScale reveals how they stayed up during the AWS outage that took down millions of sites, helped grow Vitess usage 61,000% in four years, and why "tier zero" infrastructure demands extreme fault tolerance. He shares the journey from 750-user consultancy to "growing like crazy", why operational excel
Zeno Rocha of Resend on cutting scope ruthlessly and shipping perfect products fast
Resend founder Zeno Rocha reveals how he built an $18M Series A email API company by obsessing over brand, giving away React Email for free, and rejecting the "ship crap fast" mentality. He shares why seeking rejection accelerates sales, how zero-ego hiring beats talent, and why most dev tools fail by hiding behind Git
Jeff Huber of Chroma on how small opinionated teams with low egos build the best developer tools
In this episode of Dev Propulsion Labs, Chroma co-founder Jeff Huber explains why "consensus is a death blow" for great products and reveals his framework for commercializing open source: keep the engine open, monetize the car. He breaks down context engineering, why RAG became industry brain rot, and how small opinion
Sarah Wooders on why LLMs are like Memento and building the infrastructure for stateful AI agents
Join us for a conversation with Sarah Wooders, CTO & co-founder of Letta AI, as she reveals why LLMs are not there yet and how stateful agents will unlock the next generation of AI applications. From Berkeley PhD to YC alum to building the infrastructure for truly intelligent agents. Key insights from this episode. On
Join us for an incredible conversation with Adam Frankl - author, advisor, investor, and the final boss of development marketing. In this episode, we dive deep into the biggest challenges facing developer tool startups in 2025 and how to overcome them. On the AI boom opportunity: 2025 has gotta be the best year ever fo
