CISO Communication and Hiring, as they Combat Threat and Penetration Testing Trends - Gunter Ollmann, Derek Manky - BSW #395

In the leadership and communications section, How CISOs can talk cybersecurity so it makes sense to executives, Firms to spend more on GenAI than security in 2025, Europe leads shift from cyber security ‘headcount gap’ to skills-based hiring, and more! Next, pre-recorded interviews from RSAC Conference 2025, including: This segment is sponsored by Fortinet. Visit https://securityweekly.com/fortinetrsac to learn more about them! Unpacking the latest annual report from Fortinet's FortiGuard Labs. We're talking with Derek Manky, Chief Security Strategist and Global VP Threat Intelligence, Fortinet’s FortiGuard Labs, to get a snapshot of the active threat landscape and trends from 2024, including a comprehensive analysis across all tactics used in cyberattacks, as outlined in the MITRE ATT&CK framework. The report reveals that threat actors are increasingly harnessing automation, commoditized tools, and AI to systematically erode the traditional advantages held by defenders. Read the full report at https://securityweekly.com/fortinetrsac. This segment is sponsored by Cobalt. Visit https://securityweekly.com/cobaltrsac to learn more about them! In this interview, Gunter Ollmann, Chief Technology Officer at Cobalt, unpacks the findings from the State of Pentesting Report 2025, spotlighting both measurable security progress and the rising challenges introduced by generative AI (genAI). While the report shows that organizations are resolving vulnerabilities faster than ever, genAI systems stand out as a growing security blind spot: only 21% of serious genAI vulnerabilities identified during penetration testing are fixed, compared to over 75% for API flaws and 68% for cloud vulnerabilities. Nearly 32% of genAI-related findings were classified as high risk — more than double the average across other systems. And although 98% of organizations are adopting genAI-powered features, only 66% are running regular security assessments on those systems. Segment Resources: https://www.cobalt.io/blog/key-takeaways-state-of-pentesting-report-2025 https://resource.cobalt.io/state-of-pentesting-2025?gl=1*zwbjgz*gclaw*R0NMLjE3MzcwNTU5ODMuQ2owS0NRaUEtYUs4QmhDREFSSXNBTF8tSDltRlB0X2FmSVhnQnBzSjYxOHlRZ1dhcmRMQ0lHalo3eVgxcTh1cHVnWFVwV0todHFPSDFZZ2FBb0hNRUFMd193Y0I.*gcl_au*MTc4MjQwMTAwNC4xNzQ0NjM0MTgz Visit https://www.securityweekly.com/bsw for all the latest episodes! Show Notes: https://securityweekly.com/bsw-395