Why Playing the Villain in Marketing Actually Works with Brian Massey

18 Jun 2025 • 35 min • EN
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What if everything we've been taught about brand positioning is backwards? While most businesses scramble to cast themselves as the hero swooping in to save the day, conversion optimization expert Brian Massey argues there's real power in embracing your inner villain. Not the mustache-twirling, world-destroying kind of villain—but the purposeful antagonist who sees something wrong with the world and has the audacity to change it. In this conversation, Brian breaks down why being the villain in your customer's journey might be exactly what your marketing needs to cut through the noise, attract your ideal customers, and yes, even make the world a little bit better in the process. https://www.theagentsofchange.com/588 Need help with your branding, website, or digital marketing? Reach out to me (Rich Brooks!) today at https://www.takeflyte.com/contact

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