Trump's Tech Czar on Crypto, AI, and American Innovation

05 Nov 2025 • 78 min • EN
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with @DavidSacks @pmarca @bhorowitz @eriktorenberg Today’s episode features David Sacks, the Trump administration’s “AI and crypto czar," in conversation with a16z cofounders Marc Andreessen and Ben Horowitz, and General Partner Erik Torenberg. They dig into:how the U.S. is approaching AI and crypto policy,the fight over open source software,the status of tech regulation and legislation (like the CLARITY Act for crypto),what’s at stake in the geopolitical race with China, and more This episode is a special crossover with the a16z podcast, which you can follow for more conversations like this. Timestamps: 00:00 Intro 01:16 David Sacks on Crypto and AI Policy 02:34 Trump's Vision for Crypto 06:16 The Crypto Crackdown and Debanking Years 08:58 AI Regulatory Capture and Gatekeeping 11:30 How Permissionless Innovation Built Silicon Valley 16:21 "Woke" vs. Orwellian AI 21:48 When AGI? 24:29 Polytheistic AI and "End-to-End" Humans 31:07 The Future of AI: Controlled or Decentralized? 37:13 Open Source and Global Competition 41:53 The AI Race: US vs China 46:32 Amping Up Energy and Infrastructure 47:17 Cultural Divides Over the American Tech Stack 55:01 The European approach and Doomerism 01:06:14 Crypto and the Legislative Process (GENIUS, CLARITY) 01:11:13 The Future of the Democratic Party 01:14:12 San Francisco Politics 📩 Subscribe for more industry reports, trend updates, news analysis, builder guides, and other resourcesfrom a16z crypto: https://a16zcrypto.substack.com/subscribe/  🎙️ Like, subscribe, comment, share the show: https://a16zcrypto.com/posts/podcast/  *** As always, none of the following should be taken as investment, business, legal, or tax advice. Please see a16z.com/disclosures for more important information, including a link to a list of our investments. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

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