Tracey Holmes: Meeting a Beatle, driving with Pele – and ‘this thing that still exists’ in sport

In this episode, we talk to Tracey Holmes. The TV trailblazer has spent more than three decades covering Australian sport and dissecting some of the biggest sporting events on the planet, bearing witness to the rise and rise of women's sport, which has had to bust through the walls of misogyny and male chauvinism. Her new book, The Eye of the Dragonfly is part memoir, part sporting manifesto, and details her nomadic childhood as the offspring of surfer parents, her start in television, her amusing first meeting with partner and fellow TV journalist Stan Grant, and how racism towards their relationship briefly unbuckled their careers. Holmes, a natural raconteur, describes her meetings and interviews with sporting giants like Pele and Cathy Freeman, and how her trademark calm has helped get her through some challenging moments. Hosting this conversation is deputy editor Greg Callaghan. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.