Tobi Lütke is still captivated by internet commerce, 20 years later

06 Oct 2025 • 102 min • EN
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Shopify founder and CEO Tobi Lütke joins John Collison to discuss the philosophies driving one of the internet’s most foundational companies. Tobi shares his perspective on why companies are a form of technology, how internal tools and "opinionated software" shape an organization's culture and accelerate its evolution, and why the best gift is finding a beautiful, unsolvable problem. Show notes[Buy] Momax: 140W Universal Travel Adapter[Read] Benjamin Bloom: The 2 Sigma Problem[Buy] Ikigai: vitamin cases [Read] Kevin Kelly: 1,000 True Fans[Read] Erich Gamma: Design Patterns [Read] Charles Calomiris: Fragile by Design[Listen] Business Breakdowns: Formula One[Watch] Netflix: Formula 1: Drive to Survive[Read] Mark Robichaux: Cable Cowboy Key Moments (00:00) Intro (07:07) How internal software shapes culture (16:32) The Shopify vision (27:49) Peak transaction capacity (34:36) Agentic commerce (49:15) Shop Pay (55:29) Stablecoins (59:20) Stripe + Shopify (1:12:23) Learning from the Coinbase board (1:17:23) Is Tobi ungovernable? (1:25:02) Entrepreneurship (1:31:50) Advice for Mark Carney (1:36:40) Motor racing

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