Azeem Azhar & Kevin Kelly , Azeem Azhar's Exponential View

The future of Human-AI coexistence, according to Kevin Kelly (co-founder of Wired, futurist, author)

19 Mar 2025 • 44 min • EN
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Kevin Kelly is a co-founder of Wired Magazine and a renowned author and futurist.  Decades ago, Kevin predicted much of today's technological and cultural landscape. In this discussion, he presents his new bold vision for what’s coming next: The Handoff to Bots. In this episode, you’ll hear:Why declining populations will radically reshape economiesWhat a bot-to-bot economy could look and feel likeWhy people of the future might be paid to read emailsHow AI could help humanity find deeper purposeWhy this future might be closer than you think Kevin’s links: Website/blog: https://kk.org/ Twitter/X: https://x.com/kevin2kelly Instagram: / kevin2kelly   Azeem's links: Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/ Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azhar?ori... Twitter/X: https://x.com/azeem Timestamps: (00:00) Intro (02:17) The baby black hole behind Kevin's theory (10:49) Kevin's thesis: The handoff to bots (15:05) This world is closer than we think (19:32) The role of humans in this new world (21:23) Could monopoly influence pose a problem? (28:33) The nature of “struggle” in this new world (32:42) Could we see countries competing for population? (36:06) How a scarcity of humans might change what we value (42:30) What would 1994 Kevin think of 2025 Kevin's blog?   Production: Production by supermix.io  

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