Tap Into Fast Flow with Team Topologies & Platform Engineering • Manuel Pais & Julian Wood

This interview was recorded for GOTO Unscripted. https://gotopia.tech Read the full transcription of this interview here Manuel Pais - Co-Author of the Book "Team Topologies" Julian Wood - Serverless Developer Advocate at AWS  RESOURCES Manuel https://x.com/manupaisable https://www.manuelpais.net https://www.linkedin.com/in/manuelpais https://github.com/manupaisable Julian https://bsky.app/profile/julianwood.com https://twitter.com/julian_wood http://www.wooditwork.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/julianrwood Links https://teamtopologies.com https://academy.teamtopologies.com https://www.teamperature.com https://itrevolution.com https://matthewskelton.com DESCRIPTION Manuel Pais, co-author of Team Topologies, shares his journey in shaping modern organizational design for fast-flow efficiency with Julian Wood. Reflecting on the widespread impact of the book, Manuel explores how its principles have enabled organizations to redefine team structures, streamline value delivery, and balance cognitive load. The discussion covers communication challenges, the evolution of platform engineering, and strategies for iterative team reorganization. Manuel also addresses the growing influence of AI in software development, emphasizing the need for human oversight, strategic alignment with value streams, and enabling teams to harness AI effectively. With insights from real-world implementations and evolving trends, this episode provides a comprehensive guide to building adaptable, customer-focused, and innovative organizations. RECOMMENDED BOOKS Matthew Skelton & Manuel Pais • Team Topologies Susanne Kaiser • Adaptive Systems With Domain-Driven Design, Wardley Mapping & Team Topologies Heidi Helfand • Dynamic Reteaming Gene Kim, Kevin Behr & George Spafford • The Phoenix Project Gene Kim, Nicole Forsgren & Jez Humble • Accelerate Gene Kim, Jez Humble, Patrick Debois, John Willis & Nicole Forsgren • The DevOps Handbook Jonathan Smart • Sooner Safer Happier Bluesky Twitter Instagram LinkedIn Facebook CHANNEL MEMBERSHIP BONUS Join this channel to get early access to videos & other perks: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs_tLP3AiwYKwdUHpltJPuA/join Looking for a unique learning experience? Attend the next GOTO conference near you! Get your ticket: gotopia.tech SUBSCRIBE TO OUR YOUTUBE CHANNEL - new videos posted daily!