SPOS #980 – Tamara Myles On Making Work Actually Matter

Welcome to episode #980 of Six Pixels of Separation - The ThinkersOne Podcast. Tamara Myles is one of the world’s leading experts on meaningful work, with a career that bridges research, leadership consulting, and positive psychology. She’s the author of The Secret To Peak Productivity, a sought-after speaker and advisor to companies like Microsoft and KPMG, and one of the first 600 people in the world to earn a master’s in Applied Positive Psychology from the University of Pennsylvania. In her new book, Meaningful Work - How To Ignite Passion And Performance In Every Employee (co-authored with Wes Adams), Tamara brings both scientific rigor and real-world empathy to one of the most pressing challenges of our time: how to make work feel like it matters. In this conversation, Tamara shares the results of her multi-year study - the first of its kind - on how leaders influence meaning in the workplace. She introduces the three core drivers of meaningful work: community, contribution, and challenge, and explains why they’re more relevant than ever in a world grappling with burnout, disconnection, and shifting values around work. We also talk about the lasting impact of the pandemic, the rise of employee apathy, and how social media has warped our collective expectations about fulfillment. Tamara, who teaches at both the University of Pennsylvania and Boston College, blends her academic insight with a deeply human perspective - reminding us that meaning is not just a nice-to-have, but a business imperative. Whether you're leading a team or trying to reconnect with your own sense of purpose, this episode offers a much-needed compass. Enjoy the conversation... Running time: 58:29. Hello from beautiful Montreal. Listen and subscribe over at Apple Podcasts. Listen and subscribe over at Spotify. Please visit and leave comments on the blog - Six Pixels of Separation. Feel free to connect to me directly on Facebook here: Mitch Joel on Facebook. Check out ThinkersOne. or you can connect on LinkedIn. ...or on X. Here is my conversation with Tamara Myles. Meaningful Work - How To Ignite Passion And Performance In Every Employee. The Secret To Peak Productivity. Applied Positive Psychology. Follow Tamara on LinkedIn. Follow Tamara on Instagram. Chapters: (00:00) - Introduction to Positive Psychology and Meaningful Work. (02:58) - The Importance of Meaning in Work. (05:57) - The Misconception of Meaningful Work. (09:03) - The Role of Leaders in Creating Meaning. (11:59) - The Impact of the Pandemic on Work Meaning. (14:58) - Transactional Work vs. Meaningful Work. (18:10) - The Dual Responsibility of Leaders and Employees. (21:04) - Hiring for Meaning in Organizations. (24:13) - Common Sense vs. Common Practice in Work Meaning. (26:59) - Expectations and Realities of Work Today. (31:46) - The Impact of Social Media on Expectations. (34:33) - Generational Perspectives on Meaningful Work. (37:47) - Work-Life Balance and Productivity. (39:08) - The Loneliness Epidemic Post-Covid. (43:39) - Creating Meaningful Work Environments. (46:58) - AI's Role in the Future of Work. (50:15) - Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion in the Workplace. (52:28) - Overcoming Apathy in the Workplace.