Pour Out and Fill Up: Ben Cachiaras on Rest, Boundaries, and Holy Ambition (Part 2) | PT 137

How do pastors pour themselves out for others without losing their own soul? In Part 2 of this conversation, Ben Cachiaras reflects on the dangers of achievement addiction, the symptoms of ministry at an unsustainable pace, and the practices that helped him and his staff find a healthier rhythm of life and leadership. From numbing emotions to creating a staff-wide REST policy, Ben shares the hard-won lessons of thriving in ministry without losing holy ambition. 🎙️ In This Episode:The signs of burnout pastors often minimize or ignoreWhy achievement can become an addiction in ministryCreating a culture of health through the REST policyHolding urgency for the gospel and soul care in tension ⏱️ Timestamps: 02:00 – Ben’s story of overcommitment and achievement addiction 07:00 – Symptoms of burnout: numbness, resentment, escapes 13:00 – When staff intervention became a turning point 19:00 – False dichotomies of soul care vs. gospel urgency 25:00 – How Mountain Church institutionalized rest 31:00 – REST policy: relax, exercise, social, time with God 35:00 – Final reflections and resources Thriving in ministry doesn’t mean abandoning holy ambition—it means learning the rhythm of pouring yourself out and allowing God to fill you back up.