Poet Campbell McGrath gives advice to writers and reads some of his work from "Nouns and Verbs"

Chicago based poet, Campbell McGrath talks to me about the difference in reading verses watching a movie, gives writing advice, and reads some of his own poetry in this riveting episode.  Nouns and Verbs:  https://www.amazon.com/Nouns-Verbs-Campbell-McGrath-ebook/dp/B07BK5LS9Z/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3PW8A8HUNH709&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.1qfSeNSYOZIt05ulFxXyn8_QiiRzB0IM1EMEF4ozu53fbgNLbjTWy4_BIKSp62x2Ra10CGwyq-zxeuIZrFSbikDsos1HvSLU-V5dDhtUwJQ.tDt4u1FECtwGzgoBPhyKtjQVULMS3tZYIylp1UJGooQ&dib_tag=se&keywords=nouns+and+verbs+campbell&qid=1717712623&sprefix=nouns+and+verbs+campbel%2Caps%2C117&sr=8-1 Ministry For The Future:  https://www.amazon.com/Ministry-Future-Kim-Stanley-Robinson-ebook/dp/B084FY1NXB/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2V2P9SQSHKEGK&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.Re3SYiqyFGxiZtBOxzhisbBhZj8Hz9fPu0WeCqucDTXuqOlUaA96vPqH2JR92qcBjFCrsNmicWuypcBmmx-qu5KhNiLLbyZvQ_1HgxKFlJEJJzMCTFMWWJPxRmIwtPfh9op5p1A7UB0MSof_oesNqj5ud3Ia2mW1dr3MipgabSZoHgC4SZ8_SGOh12tAQdBa5l8vocsd3Ooo5JtL_sL_mPcYBx9Bn4qIyPa5Qrr8kvU.Sx9Yr4EHZOcyuHQDWt9rRe50S7vIat6l2tJ9SUOgKLY&dib_tag=se&keywords=ministry+for+the+future&qid=1717712638&sprefix=ministry+for+the+future%2Caps%2C101&sr=8-1