On the Lean Out podcast, one of the topics that we often return to is the media, and the insanity of the media. For our last show of 2025, my guest is a veteran journalist and a savvy media critic, and he has some thoughts on where we are, how we got here — and where we should go from here. Mike Pesca is an award-winning American journalist. He is the creator and host of the long-running daily news podcast, The Gist. He’s also the author of Upon Further Review: The Greatest What-Ifs in Sports History. Mike Pesca is my guest, today on Lean Out. Transcript to come for paid subscribers. Lean Out with Tara Henley is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Lean Out with Tara Henley at tarahenley.substack.com/subscribe
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