MI377: How Aswath Damodaran Invests Across The Corporate Lifecycle w/ Shawn O’Malley

In today’s episode, Shawn O’Malley (@Shawn_OMalley_) discusses how companies can age just like people, how to define and understand the corporate life cycle, why the corporate decline phase is both inevitable and almost always poorly managed, how to invest across the corporate life cycle, plus so much more from studying Aswath Damodaran and recent research from Michael Mauboussin & Dan Callahan of Morgan Stanley. Aswath Damodaran is a renowned professor of finance at NYU who recently published a book on corporate life cycles. Shawn pulls from Aswath and other sources in painting an actionable picture of the corporate life cycle and how it affects investors while also diving into case studies on three aging companies: Intel, Walgreens, and Starbucks. Prefer to watch? Click here to watch this episode on YouTube. IN THIS EPISODE, YOU’LL LEARN 00:00 - Intro 02:18 - Why companies age  07:37 - What the corporate life cycle looks like 18:03 - How companies can age gracefully (and why most don’t) 23:35 - How Intel, Walgreens, and Starbucks face different and similar challenges of aging 29:23 - Which declining stock Aswath Damodaran is investing in 34:31 - Investing strategies based on the corporate life cycle 36:59 - Why it’s important to diversify across the corporate life cycle 43:19 - Why younger companies carry more duration risk And much, much more! *Disclaimer: Slight timestamp discrepancies may occur due to podcast platform differences. BOOKS AND RESOURCES Join the exclusive TIP Mastermind Community to engage in meaningful stock investing discussions with Kyle and the other community members. Clay Finck’s interview with Aswath Damodaran on We Study Billionaires | YouTube Video. Morgan Stanley’s paper on stages of the corporate life cycle.  Damodaran’s free online course about the corporate life cycle. Book: The Corporate Lifecycle by Aswath Damodaran. Book: The Little Book of Valuation by Aswath Damodaran. Blog post on the investing implications of the corporate life cycle. Check out the case study on aging on Intel, Starbucks, and Walgreens. Aswath Damodaran’s YouTube channel. Aswath Damodaran’s free mobile app for valuation. Check out the books mentioned in the podcast here. Enjoy ad-free episodes when you subscribe to our Premium Feed. NEW TO THE SHOW? Follow our official social media accounts: X (Twitter) | LinkedIn | Instagram | Facebook | TikTok. Check out our Millennial Investing Starter Packs. Browse through all our episodes (complete with transcripts) here. Try Kyle's favorite tool for picking stock winners and managing our portfolios: TIP Finance. Enjoy exclusive perks from our favorite Apps and Services. Stay up-to-date on financial markets and investing strategies through our daily newsletter, We Study Markets. Learn how to better start, manage, and grow your business with the best business podcasts. SPONSORS Support our free podcast by supporting our sponsors: Toyota Bluehost Fundrise Public Airbnb NetSuite Connect with Shawn: Twitter | LinkedIn | Email HELP US OUT! Help us reach new listeners by leaving us a rating and review on Spotify! It takes less than 30 seconds and really helps our show grow, which allows us to bring on even better guests for you all! Thank you – we really appreciate it!  Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices Support our show by becoming a premium member! https://theinvestorspodcastnetwork.supportingcast.fm