Meghan Daum and Lily Isaacs on 'Heterofatalism'

30 Jul 2025 • 51 min • EN
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One of the themes of the Lean Out podcast is the ongoing tensions between men and women. This past week saw a shot fired on that front: a piece published in The New York Times Magazine, titled “The Trouble With Wanting Men.” For this special joint episode, podcaster Meghan Daum and I unpack this essay with a Gen Z guest. Meghan Daum is an American author and essayist, and the host of the Unspeakable podcast, soon to be renamed the Unspeakeasy. Lily Isaacs is a British writer, and an editorial assistant for UnHerd. Meghan Daum and Lily Isaacs are my guests, today, in this joint episode of Lean Out and the Unspeakable. Lean Out with Tara Henley is a reader-supported publication. To receive new posts and support my work, consider becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Lean Out with Tara Henley at tarahenley.substack.com/subscribe

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