Jacinda Ardern on leading with empathy and overcoming self-doubt

01 Jul 2025 • 38 min • EN
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When Jacinda Ardern was thrown into the race for New Zealand’s prime ministry just months before the general election in 2017, she had no intention of even running for the position—but she knew it was her responsibility to become the leader her country needed. In this episode, Adam and Jacinda reflect on strategies for closing confidence gaps, discuss the importance of compassion in leadership, and break down a phenomenon that New Zealanders call “tall poppy syndrome.” They also look back on Jacinda’s most pivotal decisions, from steering the country through the COVID pandemic to stepping down as Prime Minister. Follow Host: Adam Grant (Instagram: @adamgrant | LinkedIn: @adammgrant | Website: adamgrant.net/) Guest: Jacinda Ardern (Instagram: @jacindaardern) Links Preorder A Different Kind of Power by Jacinda Ardern Subscribe to TED  Instagram: @ted YouTube: @TED TikTok: @tedtoks LinkedIn: @ted-conferences Website: ted.com Podcasts: ted.com/podcasts For the full text transcript, visit ted.com/podcasts/rethinking-with-adam-grant-transcripts Want to help shape TED’s shows going forward? Fill out our survey! For the Idea Search application, go to ted.com/ideasearch Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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