Interviews with Former Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin

On CNN's State of the Union, CNN Chief International Security Correspondent Nick Paton Walsh joins Jake Tapper to bring the latest updates in Syria after rebels toppled the Assad regime. Then, former Trump Defense Secretary Mark Esper talks with Jake about the future of Syria and the Middle East after the stunning developments in Syria. Next, Jake presses Oklahoma Senator Markwayne Mullin about Trump Defense Secretary nominee Pete Hegseth's alleged history with alcohol. After, Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin sits down with Jake to talk about Biden's pardons and Trump's cabinet picks. Finally, Rep. Debbie Dingell and CNN Political Commentators Jamal Simmons, Alyssa Farah Griffin and Scott Jennings join Jake to discuss fears of potential retribution under Trump and Biden’s decision to pardon his son Hunter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices