How to Make Boring Talks Engaging (and Why It Matters) with Joel Benge

24 Sep 2025 • 42 min • EN
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Mastering Technical Talks: Joel Benge's Guide to Message Therapy SUMMARY In this episode of Present Influence, host John Ball speaks with Joel Benge, author of 'Be A Nerd that Talks Good,' and creator of the Message Therapy framework. Joel shares his technique for transforming technical presentations into memorable and impactful stories. Drawing from experiences at Nickelodeon, NASA, and the Department of Homeland Security, Joel discusses how to connect with any audience by striking a balance between logic, emotion, and credibility. Listeners will learn how to strip out jargon, build trust, and convey powerful messages, making even the most complex ideas stick. Joel also outlines his unique framework and tools like the Message Deck, which help speakers develop and structure their messages effectively. Tune in to discover how to make your technical talks unforgettable. For Joel's prompt cards, book or more information, visit nerdthattalksgood.com CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction: Making Technical Talks Memorable 00:14 Meet Joel Benge: From Nickelodeon to NASA 01:45 Joel's Journey: From IT Geek to Communication Expert 03:55 The Power of Simplifying Technical Communication 05:47 Joel's Message Therapy: Helping Nerds Talk Good 15:58 The Framework: Head, Heart, and Gut 24:07 Building Connections: The Importance of Vulnerability 28:28 Crafting Effective Presentations: Objectives and Outcomes 35:35 Tools and Resources: Cards, Books, and More 41:16 Conclusion: The Impact of Clear Messaging This episode was created in partnership with Podmatch, the best podcast guest-matching service, helping expert guests find the ideal podcasts to guest on. Head there now to book your next guest appearance: https://www.joinpodmatch.com/presentinfluence #podmatch Visit presentinfluence.com/quiz to take the Speaker Radiance Quiz and discover your Charisma Quotient. For speaking enquiries or to connect with me, you can email john@presentinfluence.com or find me on LinkedIn You can find all our clips, episodes and more on the Present Influence YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@PresentInfluence Thanks for listening, and please give the show a 5* review if you enjoyed it.

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