How to lead when you’re scared of saying the wrong thing, with Clare Stephens

08 Oct 2025 • 33 min • EN
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What happens when you say the wrong thing online - or at work - and suddenly feel the world closing in? Clare Stephens knows this all too well. After publishing an article that completely missed the mark, she was hit with a wave of outrage that forced her to rethink how she apologised, how she listened, and how she led.  In this episode, I sit down with Clare Stephens, writer, podcaster, and former editor-in-chief at Mamamia. We talk about the lessons she’s learnt from being on the receiving end of online criticism, what makes an apology actually land, and how leaders can foster a culture where mistakes don’t spell disaster. Clare also shares how she walked away from what she thought was her dream role to pursue a more creative and values-aligned path.  By the end of our conversation, you’ll have a new lens on handling criticism, leading with empathy, and making decisions that keep you true to yourself.  Clare and I discuss:  Why Clare avoids the term “cancel culture” and what she sees instead  The psychological toll of public shaming and internet outrage  How constructive feedback – not angry comments – changed her perspective  The key difference between apologising online and at work  Why leaders fear saying the wrong thing, and how to navigate this  Clare’s decision-making hack for choosing what to say yes and no to  How comparison with her twin sister shaped her career – and what motherhood taught her about self-worth  Key Quotes  “The less you do, the quicker the fire ends.”  “Sometimes saying yes is just procrastination.”   Connect with Clare Stephens on Instagram, LinkedIn and pre-order her latest book The Worst Thing I’ve Ever Done here.    My latest book The Health Habit is out now. You can order a copy here: https://www.amantha.com/the-health-habit/  Connect with me on the socials: Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanthaimber)  Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/amanthai)  If you are looking for more tips to improve the way you work and live, I write a weekly newsletter where I share practical and simple to apply tips to improve your life. You can sign up for that at https://amantha-imber.ck.page/subscribe  Visit https://www.amantha.com/podcast for full show notes from all episodes.  Get in touch at amantha@inventium.com.au  Credits:  Host: Amantha Imber  Sound Engineer: The Podcast Butler  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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