141 - Nora Bateson on Warm Data vs. The Cold Equations

“The way we discuss what needs to be done now will shape what it is possible to do. This is not a moment to fix a machine, this is a moment to compose new cultures.” This week’s guest is Nora Bateson, Director of the International Bateson Institute, author, film-maker, and founder of the Warm Data Lab. Nora is a magician when it comes to getting people to live the relational and dynamic, the embodied and incompressible. If you’re a podcast enthusiast you’ve probably already bolted a bracing dose of her warm wisdom on shows like Team Human and Future Thinkers, but of course we live in unique and unprecedented times, so I’m honored that we got to sit down for a US-Sweden Zoom call and talk about how current world events touch down in the messy and beautiful everyday. Notes: Bateson Institute Website Nora’s Essay, “Eating Sand” MarketPlace reading group for the CORE Econ Textbook Support this show on Patreon for secret episodes, the Future Fossils book club, and more awesome stuff than you probably have time for. Grab the books we talk about on Future Fossils and Amazon will chip me a little of the proceeds, at no cost to you. Theme Music: “God Detector” by Evan “Skytree” Snyder (feat. Michael Garfield) Additional Intro Music: “Lambent” by Michael Garfield Get bonus content on Patreon Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/futurefossils. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit michaelgarfield.substack.com/subscribe