EP 206: Meghan Daum and Lily Isaacs on 'Heterofatalism'

30 Jul 2025 • 51 min • EN
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One of the themes of the Lean Out podcast is the ongoing tensions between men and women. This past week saw a shot fired on that front: a piece published in The New York Times Magazine, titled “The Trouble With Wanting Men.” For this special joint episode, we unpack this essay with podcaster Meghan Daum and a Gen Z guest. Meghan Daum is an American author and essayist, and the host of the Unspeakable podcast, soon to be renamed the Unspeakeasy. Lily Isaacs is a British writer, and an editorial assistant for UnHerd. You can find Tara Henley on Twitter at @TaraRHenley, and on Substack at tarahenley.substack.com

From "Lean Out with Tara Henley"

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