Hard Sci-Fi Worldbuilding, Robotics, Society, & Purpose with Gary Bengier

As a careful study of the world, science is reflective and reactive — it constrains our flights of fancy, anchors us in hard-won fact. By contrast, science fiction is a speculative world-building exercise that guides imagination and foresight by marrying the known with the unknown. The field is vast; some sci-fi writers pay less tribute to the line between the possible and the impossible. Others, though, adopt a far more sober tactic and write “hard” sci fi that does its best to stay within the limits of our current paradigm while rooting visions of the future that can grow beyond and beckon us into a bigger, more adventurous reality. The question we might ask, though, is: which one is which? Our bounded rationality, our sense for what is plausible, is totally dependent on our personal life histories, cultural conditioning, information diet, and social network biases. One person’s linear projections seem too conservative; another person’s exponential change seems like a fantasy. If we can say one thing about our complex world, it might be that it always has, and always will, defy our expectations… Welcome to COMPLEXITY, the official podcast of the Santa Fe Institute. I’m your host, Michael Garfield, and every other week we’ll bring you with us for far-ranging conversations with our worldwide network of rigorous researchers developing new frameworks to explain the deepest mysteries of the universe. This week on Complexity, we join up with Caitlin McShea and the InterPlanetary Project’s Alien Crash Site podcast for a wild discussion with SFI Trustee, technologist, and philosopher Gary Bengier about his science fiction novel Unfettered Journey. This book takes readers forward more than a century into a highly automated, highly-stratified post-climate-change world in which our protaganist defies the rigid norms of his society to follow fundamental questions about mind, life, purpose, meaning, consciousness, and truth. It is a perfect backdrop to our conversation on the role of complex systems science in our understanding of both present-day society and the futures that may, or may never, come to pass… If you value our research and communication efforts, please subscribe to Complexity Podcast wherever you prefer to listen, rate and review us at Apple Podcasts, and/or consider making a donation at santafe.edu/give. Thank you for listening! Join our Facebook discussion group to meet like minds and talk about each episode. Podcast theme music by Mitch Mignano. Follow us on social media: Twitter • YouTube • Facebook • Instagram • LinkedIn Go Deeper With These Related Media Science: Paul Smaldino: The evolution of covert signaling in diverse societies Geoffrey West: Scale Bob May: Will a Large Complex System be Stable? Melanie Mitchell: The Collapse of Artificial Intelligence Melanie Mitchell: On Crashing The Barrier of Meaning in AI Elisa Heinrich Mora et al.: Scaling of Urban Income Inequality in the United States SFI ACtioN Climate Change Seminar: Complexity of Sustainability Raissa D’Souza: The Collapse of Networks David Krakauer: Preventative Citizen-Based Medicine Simon DeDeo & Elizabeth Hobson: From equality to hierarchy Peter Turchin: The Double Helix of Inequality and Well-Being Speculative Fiction: 2019 IPFest World Building Panel Discussion with Rebecca Roanhorse, James S.A. Correy, and Cris Moore Robin Hanson: Age of Em Ayn Rand: Atlas Shrugged Peter Watts: Blindsight Isaac Asimov: Foundation The Strugatsky Brothers: Roadside Picnic Podcast Episodes: Complexity 10: Melanie Moses on Metabolic Scaling in Biology & Computation Complexity 14: W. Brian Arthur (Part 2) on The Future of The Economy Complexity 19: David Kinney on the Philosophy of Science Complexity 21: Melanie Mitchell on Artificial Intelligence: What We Still Don't Know Complexity 22: Nicole Creanza on Cultural Evolution in Humans & Songbirds Complexity 36: Geoffrey West on Scaling, Open-Ended Growth, and Accelerating Crisis/Innovation Cycles: Transcendence or Collapse? (Part 2) Complexity 51: Cris Moore on Algorithmic Justice & The Physics of Inference The Jim Rutt Show 152: Gary Bengier on Hard Sci-Fi Futures