China’s catching up to US AI… Here’s why it won’t matter

14 May 2025 • 49 min • EN
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Lennart Heim, a researcher and information scientist at RAND Corporation, joins Azeem Azhar to unpack a provocative claim: China is catching up with US AI capabilities, but it doesn't matter.  Timestamps:  (00:00) Episode trailer  (01:19) Lennart’s core thesis  (03:26)   Why compute matters so much  (07:31)  The investment split between model R&D and model execution  (11:18)  How test-time compute impacts costs  (16:14) The geopolitics of compute  (21:32) Why does the U.S have more compute capacity than China?  (25:01)  The trade-off between economic needs and national-security needs  (31:54)  How technology change might shift the battlegrounds  (35:33)  Dealing with compute and power concentration  (48:19)  Concluding quick-fire question    Lennart's links: Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/ohlennartPersonal blog: https://heim.xyz/ Azeem's links:Substack: https://www.exponentialview.co/Website: https://www.azeemazhar.com/LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/azharTwitter/X: https://x.com/azeem This was originally recorded for "Friday with Azeem Azhar", a new show that takes place every Friday at 9am PT and 12pm ET. You can tune in through Exponential View on Substack.  Produced by supermix.io and EPIIPLUS1 Ltd

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