Balancing it all

30 Jul 2025 • 29 min • EN
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37signals" co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson are back behind the mic with host Kimberly Rhodes. This week, they’re discussing balancing personal interests, health, and hobbies with business success. They discuss building a healthy company without it taking over your life. Key Takeaways:01:12 – Why business health is all about balance05:48 – The hidden cost of overcomplicating your business08:36 – Taking a closer look at how you"re spending your time15:10 – Leaders should be available18:57 – The downside of over scheduling your days20:44 – Basecamp’s approach to requesting people’s time25:26 – Your outside interests don’t have to tie back to work Links and Resources:Slack: Getting Past Burnout, Busywork, and the Myth of Total Efficiency by Tom DemarcoRecord or upload a video question for Jason and DavidGet Basecamp for free at Basecamp.comBooks by 37signalsHEY World | HEYREWORK podcast merchThe REWORK podcastThe Rework Podcast on YouTubeThe 37signals Dev Blog37signals on YouTube@37signals on X

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