Austin Kleon Talks About Routine, Creativity, and Paying Attention

It was a real treat to reconnect with Austin Kleon for this episode of A Productive Conversation. Before we got into the heart of the conversation, Austin gave us a quick update: his next book Don’t Call It Art is in the works, inspired by the playful creativity he’s witnessed in his kids. He also mentioned that his once-weekly newsletter has now doubled in frequency—and it continues to be one of the best things I read online. What followed was one of the most down-to-earth, real conversations I’ve had on the podcast. Austin and I explored how routines shape creative work, why space and time are both essential, and what it means to pay attention in a world that’s constantly pulling at you. His approach to creative living—one grounded in ritual, space, boundaries, and self-awareness—is something we can all learn from, whether we’re artists, entrepreneurs, or just trying to make a little more room for what matters. Key Discussion PointsAustin’s upcoming book Don’t Call It Art and how it was inspired by parentingThe power of routine in a creative life—and how Austin structures his dayWhy boundaries (including physical signs on doors) help protect focusUsing analog and digital “zones” for different types of workPaying attention to what you pay attention to—and why it mattersThe idea of a “bliss station” and how space (or time) supports creative flowRevisiting your own journaling and notes as a form of orientation and reflection Three Connection PointsAustin's websiteKeep Going: 10 Ways to Stay Creative in Good Times and BadMy "Bliss Station" (circa 2019) Whether you’re deep into your own creative practice or trying to carve out more space for it, this conversation with Austin is a reminder that creativity isn’t about hustle—it’s about attention, boundaries, and giving yourself room to work and think. It’s always a joy to talk with Austin, and I hope this episode helps you reconnect with your own creative rhythm. (Originally released April 2019) My New Book! The Productivity Diet is now available! Visit mikevardy.com/lit to learn more and get your copy today. Enjoying the show? The best way to support A Productive Conversation right now is to listen, share, and leave a review wherever you tune in. If you’d like to support the show more directly in the future, stay tuned—something is in the works!