#83 - Cody Keenan - Wonderful Struggle

Send us a text Meet Cody Keenan—best known as President Barack Obama’s longtime speechwriter and author of the bestseller "Grace."  The conversation covers Cody’s career journey, from his early days working for Senator Ted Kennedy, to his rise as White House Chief Speechwriter, and beyond. Martin opens with humor and heartfelt admiration for Cody’s work, setting a warm, conversational tone. Additionally, the episode touches on the creative process behind presidential speechwriting: the intense collaboration, the immense pressure, and the quest for authenticity in political messaging. Cody reflects on some of the standout speeches he’s helped create, like the Selma anniversary address, and discusses the value of hope, optimism, and candor when writing for the public. He also gives practical advice to aspiring speechwriters, stressing the importance of clear, conversational language and the dangers of becoming too lofty or detached from everyday people. Personal reflections, pop culture references, and “nerd outs” about superheroes give the episode an accessible, engaging feel. Throughout, Cody and Martin discuss the importance of public service, the shifting nature of media and public discourse, and the power of storytelling to forge a common, uplifting narrative. They close with mutual appreciation and Cody’s advice to the next generation: be less cynical, invest in hope, and don’t be afraid to fail if you’re striving to make things better. Overall, this episode balances behind-the-scenes political insight with relatable and inspiring life lessons, making it a compelling listen whether you’re a fan of politics, writing, or personal growth. === Time Codes: 00:00 Cody"s Notable Speeches and Appearances 05:10 Exclusive Interview Highlights 07:50 Oval Office Basement Stress Reflections 10:46 Legacy of War Silence 14:45 Meeting Presidents & Speechwriting Insights 15:41 Anonymity"s Decline in Public Service 21:44 "Obama"s Skill: Crafting Resonant Narratives" 23:53 Delayed Visit and Unifying Narratives 28:29 Envy of White House Advance Team 31:16 Visualizing Success Through Preparation 35:10 Moonshot Optimism 38:31 "Perseverance and Impactful Living" 39:11 "Milestone Gratitude Acknowledgment" Connect with Passing The Torch: Facebook and IG: @torchmartin More Amazing Stories: Episode 41: Lee Ellis – Freeing You From Bond That Make You Insecure Episode 49: Ryan Hawk – Crafting a Legacy of Leadership Episode 52: Riley Tejcek – Mission of Empowerment and Endurance