#438 – Elon Musk: Neuralink and the Future of Humanity

Elon Musk is CEO of Neuralink, SpaceX, Tesla, xAI, and CTO of X. DJ Seo is COO & President of Neuralink. Matthew MacDougall is Head Neurosurgeon at Neuralink. Bliss Chapman is Brain Interface Software Lead at Neuralink. Noland Arbaugh is the first human to have a Neuralink device implanted in his brain. Transcript: https://lexfridman.com/elon-musk-and-neuralink-team-transcript Please support this podcast by checking out our sponsors: https://lexfridman.com/sponsors/ep438-sc SPONSOR DETAILS: - Cloaked: https://cloaked.com/lex and use code LexPod to get 25% off - MasterClass: https://masterclass.com/lexpod to get 15% off - Notion: https://notion.com/lex - LMNT: https://drinkLMNT.com/lex to get free sample pack - Motific: https://motific.ai - BetterHelp: https://betterhelp.com/lex to get 10% off CONTACT LEX: Feedback - give feedback to Lex: https://lexfridman.com/survey AMA - submit questions, videos or call-in: https://lexfridman.com/ama Hiring - join our team: https://lexfridman.com/hiring Other - other ways to get in touch: https://lexfridman.com/contact EPISODE LINKS: Neuralink's X: https://x.com/neuralink Neuralink's Website: https://neuralink.com/ Elon's X: https://x.com/elonmusk DJ's X: https://x.com/djseo_ Matthew's X: https://x.com/matthewmacdoug4 Bliss's X: https://x.com/chapman_bliss Noland's X: https://x.com/ModdedQuad xAI: https://x.com/xai Tesla: https://x.com/tesla Tesla Optimus: https://x.com/tesla_optimus Tesla AI: https://x.com/Tesla_AI PODCAST INFO: Podcast website: https://lexfridman.com/podcast Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/2lwqZIr Spotify: https://spoti.fi/2nEwCF8 RSS: https://lexfridman.com/feed/podcast/ YouTube Full Episodes: https://youtube.com/lexfridman YouTube Clips: https://youtube.com/lexclips SUPPORT & CONNECT: - Check out the sponsors above, it's the best way to support this podcast - Support on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/lexfridman - Twitter: https://twitter.com/lexfridman - Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lexfridman - LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lexfridman - Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lexfridman - Medium: https://medium.com/@lexfridman OUTLINE: Here's the timestamps for the episode. On some podcast players you should be able to click the timestamp to jump to that time. (00:00) - Introduction (09:26) - Elon Musk (12:42) - Telepathy (19:22) - Power of human mind (23:49) - Future of Neuralink (29:04) - Ayahuasca (38:33) - Merging with AI (43:21) - xAI (45:34) - Optimus (52:24) - Elon's approach to problem-solving (1:09:59) - History and geopolitics (1:14:30) - Lessons of history (1:18:49) - Collapse of empires (1:26:32) - Time (1:29:14) - Aliens and curiosity (1:36:48) - DJ Seo (1:44:57) - Neural dust (1:51:40) - History of brain–computer interface (1:59:44) - Biophysics of neural interfaces (2:10:12) - How Neuralink works (2:16:03) - Lex with Neuralink implant (2:36:01) - Digital telepathy (2:47:03) - Retracted threads (2:52:38) - Vertical integration (2:59:32) - Safety (3:09:27) - Upgrades (3:18:30) - Future capabilities (3:47:46) - Matthew MacDougall (3:53:35) - Neuroscience (4:00:44) - Neurosurgery (4:11:48) - Neuralink surgery (4:30:57) - Brain surgery details (4:46:40) - Implanting Neuralink on self (5:02:34) - Life and death (5:11:54) - Consciousness (5:14:48) - Bliss Chapman (5:28:04) - Neural signal (5:34:56) - Latency (5:39:36) - Neuralink app (5:44:17) - Intention vs action (5:55:31) - Calibration (6:05:03) - Webgrid (6:28:05) - Neural decoder (6:48:40) - Future improvements (6:57:36) - Noland Arbaugh (6:57:45) - Becoming paralyzed (7:11:20) - First Neuralink human participant (7:15:21) - Day of surgery (7:33:08) - Moving mouse with brain (7:58:27) - Webgrid (8:06:28) - Retracted threads (8:14:53) - App improvements (8:21:38) - Gaming (8:32:36) - Future Neuralink capabilities (8:35:31) - Controlling Optimus robot (8:39:53) - God