#273 - Otis Brown III: Do Music Schools Really BREAK You Like in Whiplash?

18 Jun 2025 • 110 min • EN
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Otis Brown III didn’t just grow up around music, he was shaped by it. With a father who drummed for legends like James Brown and Al Green, and a mother who was a classically trained pianist and choir director, Otis was raised in a home where rhythm and soul were a way of life. In this episode, we trace Otis’s journey from early church gigs to Donald Byrd’s midnight mentorship and on to stages with Esperanza Spalding and Robert Glasper. He breaks down his debut album, The Thought of You, the emotional power of drumming, and the unique pressure of leading a band. We also unpack Whiplash, the dark side of music education, and whether greatness comes from obsession, or in spite of it. Plus: his take on Kendrick Lamar, jazz-meets-hip-hop fusion, and the rhythms that speak louder than words.   Guest bio: Otis Brown is a Grammy-nominated jazz drummer, composer, and recording artist who is a go-to session and touring sideman. He's studied under jazz icon Donald Byrd and trained at The New School. He’s performed with Joe Lovano, Esperanza Spalding, and Gerald Clayton. He is currently the Assistant Professor of Jazz Drum Set at Eastman School of Music at the University of Rochester.   SUPPORT THE ZACH SHOW BY SUBSCRIBING TO THE ZACH SHOW 2.0 (BONUS EPISODES & EXCLUSIVE CONTENT): https://auxoro.supercast.com/   OTIS BROWN III LINKS: Website: http://www.obthree.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ob3isme/ The Thought Of You (Spotify): https://bit.ly/45ugNDL Twitter: https://x.com/ob3isme Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ob3isme   THE ZACH SHOW LINKS: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/auxoro/ YouTube:  https://bit.ly/3CLjEqF Newsletter: https://therealzachwrites.substack.com/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@auxoropod   To support the show, please leave a review on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. This nudges the algorithm to show The Zach Show to more new listeners and is the best way to help the show grow. Thank you for your support:    Review us on Apple Podcasts: https://bit.ly/458nbha Review us on Spotify: https://bit.ly/43ZLrAt  

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