232 - How to Talk About Suicide (Even When It’s Hard) with Julien Devereux

Text Us Your Feedback! (Likes, Dislikes, Guest/Conversation Recommendations). Why do so many men struggle in silence—and what can we do about it? In this powerful Men’s Health Month episode, host Boysen Hodgson is joined by Julien Devereux, a longtime MKP leader, therapist, and suicide prevention advocate. Together, they unpack the unseen emotional struggles many men carry, even in supportive spaces like men’s circles. Julien shares a proven, structured process to help groups talk openly about suicide and mental health—breaking the silence that often isolates men at their most vulnerable. We also hear from Andy Miller, who founded the DRM Foundation after losing his 25-year-old son Drew to suicide. Andy’s reflections are raw and human, revealing both the pain of loss and the power of turning grief into action. This episode is not just about raising awareness—it’s about learning to ask better questions, to create stronger circles of care, and to recognize when a man needs more than just support—he needs real help. If you’ve ever lost someone to suicide, struggled yourself, or want to be better equipped to show up for the men in your life—this conversation is for you. Key Links Movember – The Real Face of Men’s Health Report 📄 https://us.movember.com/movember-institute/the-real-face-of-mens-health-report DRM Foundation (Drew Miller Foundation) 🌐 https://www.drmfoundation.org International Association for Suicide Prevention (IASP) 🌐 https://www.iasp.info QPR Institute – Suicide Prevention Training 🌐 https://qprinstitute.com BetterHelp: Get 10% Off Your First Month Of Therapy The ManKind Podcast has partnered with Betterhelp to make it easier for listeners to access licensed mental health therapists who can aid them in their mental health journey. Brandon and Boysen stand by this service as they use BetterHelp for their therapy needs. #Sponsorship #Ad Support the show Get up to 48% off Magic Mind with our link: https://magicmind.com/MANKIND50 Subscribe/Rate/Review on iTunes ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐: >>>HERE<<< Stay in the loop with powerful figures in the world of Men"s Work. Find A Men"s Circle Near You: https://mkpusa.org/mens-group With over 1000+ Men"s Circles (Virtual + In-Person) worldwide, men are waiting to welcome you into a kind, supportive and safe brotherhood of men. FREE Online Men"s Groups are available every week. The Men"s Work: https://mkpusa.org/themenswork/ In just three short weeks we’ll give you a solid foundation for moving ahead in your life, and you won’t be going alone. Cohorts Launch Every Month 🎵Listen To Jim Donovan & The Sun King Warriors: Spotify: Listen Here