People I (Mostly) Admire

Updated: 25 Oct 2025 • 203 episodes
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Freakonomics co-author Steve Levitt tracks down other high achievers for surprising, revealing conversations about their lives and obsessions. Join Levitt as he goes through the most interesting midlife crisis you’ve ever heard — and learn how a renegade sheriff is transforming Chicago's jail, how a biologist is finding the secrets of evolution in the Arctic tundra, and how a trivia champion memorized 160,000 flashcards. To get every show in the Freakonomics Radio Network without ads and a monthly bonus episode of Freakonomics Radio, start a free trial for SiriusXM Podcasts+ on Apple Podcasts or by visiting siriusxm.com/podcastsplus.

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Irving Finkel is an expert on cuneiform — the oldest known writing system. He tells Steve the amazing story of how an ancient clay tablet unlocked the truth about Noah’s ark (and got Finkel in trouble with some Christians).  SOURCES:Irving Finkel, curator in the department of the Middle East at the British Museum.  RES

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Moon Duchin is a math professor at the University of Chicago whose theoretical work has practical applications for voting and democracy. Why is striving for fair elections so difficult?  SOURCES:Moon Duchin, professor of mathematics at Cornell University.  RESOURCES:"Gerrymandering: The Origin Story," by Neely Tucker (

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168. Chemistry, Evolved

Frances Arnold pioneered the process of directed evolution — mimicking natural selection to create new enzymes that have changed everything from agriculture to laundry.  SOURCES:Frances Arnold, professor of chemistry at the California Institute of Technology.   RESOURCES: "Innovation by Evolution: Bringing New Chemistr

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Steven Pinker’s new book argues that all our relationships depend on shared assumptions and “recursive mentalizing” — our constant efforts to understand what other people are thinking. He and Steve talk about the psychology of eye contact, the particular value of Super Bowl ads, and what it’s like to get cancelled.  SO

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The Power of Habit author Charles Duhigg wrote his new book in an attempt to learn how to communicate better. Steve shares how the book helped him understand his own conversational weaknesses.  SOURCES:Charles Duhigg, journalist and author.  RESOURCES:Supercommunicators: How to Unlock the Secret Language of Connection,

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Seth Berkley used to run the world's largest vaccine funding organization. He and Steve talk about the incredible value of vaccines, the economics of immunizing the developing world, and the current attacks on public health.  SOURCES:Seth Berkley, epidemiologist at Brown University School of Public Health.  RESOURCES:"

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