Chelsea is joined by Traci Thomas (The Stacks podcast) to break down one of the wildest letters to hit The New York Times Magazine: a white man wondering if prioritizing women of color in dating will advance his antiracism. They unpack the letter’s cringiest moments, the ethicist’s response (was it satire?), and why no

Andrew and premiere guest Traci Thomas discuss reading recs, the temporary cease-fire in the Gaza Strip, and answer a listener question.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Politician, activist and author Stacey Abrams joins us to discuss her romantic suspense novel The Art of Desire, written under her pen name Selena Montgomery. We learn where her pseudonym came from and why she chose to re-release the book. We also talk about how Stacey's political life is influenced by her creative lif

Podcaster and journalist Sam Sanders returns to discuss You Made a Fool of Death with Your Beauty by Akwaeke Emezi for The Stacks Book Club. In our conversation of this romance novel, we wonder if the book actually qualifies as such under the rules of romance novels. We also discuss how the story feels like real life b

Traci Thomas (The Stacks) and Chelsea deep dive into the Bachelorette finale, whether the Bachelor has anything worthwhile in store for us, and what this season of the show can tell us about the upcoming election (yes, really). Also in the Glamorous Trash Menagerie: Britney Spears’ divorce post, book recommendations, a

Sam Sanders, host of the Into It and Vibe Check podcasts, joins us to discuss the history of objectivity in journalism, what identity is and how people wield it, and what it's like having co-hosts and working with friends. We also hear how Sam decides which books to feature on his podcasts and how much he should share