Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary

Updated: 06 May 2025 • 428 episodes
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Out of Patients with Matthew Zachary is the most notorious, unapologetic, and influential podcast in healthcare, amplifying the patient voice like no other. With millions of listeners, a legacy of shaping cancer survivorship, and a track record of driving policy change, this is more than a podcast—it's a movement.  Hosted by Matthew Zachary, the longest-standing podcaster in healthcare since 2007's award-winning Stupid Cancer Show, every episode delivers a masterclass in storytelling with unapologetic authenticity, sharp wit, deep insights, and unforgettable conversations with a tinge of GenX nostalgia. Featuring healthcare leaders, patient advocates, celebrities, authors, influencers, nonprofit champions, industry titans, and game-changing innovators, Out of Patients delivers conversations that make you think deeper, feel more, and learn like nowhere else.  If you really want to know what's really happening in healthcare from the people's point of view, this is the show you can't afford to miss.

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Christine Verini is a pharmacist by training, a nonprofit CEO by title, and an unapologetic empath by design. She now leads CancerCare, one of the oldest, least-known, and most impactful organizations in the country that actually helps real cancer patients deal with the practical garbage no one likes to talk about—like

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Jennifer Finkelstein is not here for your pity, your pinkwashed slogans, or your performative awareness campaigns. She’s a 20-year young adult breast cancer survivor who turned trauma into a blueprint for action and built 5 Under 40, a no-BS nonprofit supporting women diagnosed with breast cancer under 40. In this epis

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What happens when a black belt, sword-slinging fitness icon gets cancer—twice? She picks up a camera and dares the universe to test her again. Ilaria Montagnani is not your average anything. She’s been building strong bodies (and stronger minds) for over 30 years as the founder of Powerstrike. She’s part Jane Fonda, pa

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Helene M. Epstein is not here to make friends with the healthcare system. She's here to dismantle the bullshit, one catastrophic medical error at a time. An ad agency veteran turned patient safety firebrand, Helene’s journey from business development to writer to “badass queen of patient safety,” is one hell of a ride.

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Jonathan and Jennifer Wall didn’t choose this path, but they’re walking it with purpose. After losing their son, Zach, they turned their grief into action, founding Zach’s Bridge, a lifeline for families navigating pediatric cancer. This episode isn’t about platitudes or silver linings—it’s about the raw, unfiltered re

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Sarah Armstrong—forever Sarah Oakden to me, no matter what the legal documents say—isn't just my best friend.  She's my first college friend, my musical theater soulmate, and the first person who truly saw me as an artist. She was there when I walked onto Binghamton’s campus, and she was there when I walked into cancer

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