Hanging Onto Hope Podcast

Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was

Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. Nathan tells his story of how he grew up attending a Megachurch in California but when he became a director and started

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and hav

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and hav

Sneak peek into episodes 33 and 34 Understanding Narcissism and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, Authors of A Church Called Tov, Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. They discuss how their compassion for the Willow Creek and Harvest church abuse victims led them to write the book about a goodness/Tov cul