
BE THAT LAWYER
BE THAT LAWYER is for attorneys who want more freedom, enjoyment and most importantly, control in their career. Topics will include business development, marketing, branding, technology, and law firm growth. The goal is to educate, entertain and share best practices related to these topics, so that you, the listener can get real value. This is primarily an interview show with great guests (attorneys and legal marketing professionals), sharing stories and analogies, as well as engaging in personal discussions that will keep you entertained and coming back week after week.
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Michael Vater: Expanding Legal Practice with Non Traditional Methods and Partnerships
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Michael Vater discuss:Growth and networking beyond traditional legal marketingLeveraging legal tech and AI to enhance efficiencyBuilding strategic partnerships for sustainable growthEffectively balancing leadership, operations, and legal work Key Takeaways:Lawyers should build strat
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Tom Ciesielka discuss:The role of public relations and reputation management in the legal industryThe importance of media visibility and thought leadership for lawyersBalancing legal ethics, confidentiality, and public exposure in marketingThe impact of social media on modern public r
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Jim Ries discuss:Why business development is a critical yet often overlooked skill for lawyersThe role of networking in long-term professional successHow adopting a giver’s mentality leads to stronger professional relationshipsBest practices and common mistakes in networking and relat
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and David Ackert discuss:The importance of strategic networkingLeveraging existing contacts for business growthThe role of influence and prioritization in business developmentThe psychology behind relationship building Key Takeaways:Attendees should prioritize learning about others, fin
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Kyle Harbaugh discuss:Challenges in law firm business operationsThe importance of business strategy in law firmsHiring and leadership in law firmsLeveraging AI and technology for growth Key Takeaways:Many attorneys excel in legal practice but struggle with business management becaus
In this episode, Steve Fretzin and Dennis Meador discuss:How lawyers can market themselves effectively in an increasingly competitive industryThe role of personal branding in helping attorneys differentiate themselves from competitorsWhy podcasting is a valuable tool for business development and client acquisitionAdapt
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