
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.
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Build - The Metrics That Actually Matter in HR: Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built For People)
Jessica Zwaan joined us again to unpack the metrics that actually matter in HR today. We talked about the three buckets of metrics every People Leader should use, why the RANS test is a better way to measure engagement, and the one metric to rule them all (ELTV:CAC). ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Go book your next offsite w

235 - 3 principles this Head of People swears by to build high-impact teams – Frieda Möcker (Head of People & Culture, Sastrify)
Frieda Möcker, Head of People & Culture at Sastrify, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about the first steps she took to treat HR more like a product, how her team does sprint planning, and why she prefers “NCTs” over OKRs. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of ChartHop. 🔗 Go book your next offsite
Tiffany Stevenson (Former CPO, WeightWatchers), Jennifer Rettig (CPO, Pendo.io), and Kelli Dragovich (4x CHRO & Co-host of HR Heretics), joined us for MPL Live in San Francisco. We talked about the pressure HR leaders are under, what CEOs are really thinking, and how we can reimagine performance with simpler systems, c

Build - How to Hire for People Ops as a Product: Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People)
Jessica Zwaan joined us again on The Modern People Leader to break down how to hire for a people ops as a product team. She shared the 5 core skillsets needed, the importance of t-shaped talent, and how to use case studies to spot product thinking in HR Candidates. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Get in contact with the Career

232: The Modern Compensation Playbook: Matt McFarlane (Director, FNDN) & Haris Ikram (Co-Founder & CEO, CandorIQ)
Matt McFarlane and Haris Ikram joined us for a live session to break down everything modern HR leaders need to know about compensation—from philosophy and strategy to pay transparency and AI tools. Together, they shared a forward-thinking playbook for tackling merit cycles, aligning job architecture, and driving better

231 - Organizational Network Analysis Explained: Abby Brennan, Former Head of People Strategy & Operations at Carta
Abby Brennan joined us on The Modern People Leader. We discussed the power of ONA as the “shadow org chart,” how it reveals hidden influencers, and why it may be key to building smarter, more connected teams in the age of AI. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Get in contact with the Career Sandwich team. 🔗 Go book your next off