
The Modern People Leader: Forward-Thinking HR
Listen to interviews with CHROs, Chief People Officers, and other work experts on how they're pioneering the way that we work. They share what's working, what's not, and how they've gotten to where they're at in their careers.
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244 – Why IT Reports to HR & Learning the Language of AI: Kahina Ouerdane (Chief People Officer, Workleap)
Kahina Ouerdane, Chief People Officer at Workleap, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about her journey from international human rights law to tech, how software is the new workplace, why AI is forcing a rethinking of learning and org design, and more. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request a demo of Workleap. ?

243 - Rethinking Org Design in the AI Era: Alex Buder Shapiro, Chief People Officer at Jasper
Alex Buder Shapiro, Chief People Officer at Jasper, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how AI is reshaping organizational design, the shift from early-career jobs to early-career talent, and how HR teams can lead through experimentation and workflow innovation. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Get in contact
Eliza Jackson, Chief People and Administrative Officer at ButcherBox, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how operational excellence can protect and scale company culture, how her team built a "work in service of" mindset, and how ButcherBox is using AI agents to unlock capacity—not replace people.

Build - The What, Why, & How of Creating an Employee Journey Map: Joris Luijke (CEO, Pyn) & Jessica Zwaan (Author, Built for People)
Jessica Zwaan and Joris Luijke joined us to break down the what, why, and how to create an employee journey map. We talked about why People teams should be designing for moments and not just processes, why journey mapping should start small, and why 80% of employee moments fall flat. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Get in cont

240 - Why HR should own the workflows & not just the workforce: Thomas Forstner, VP of People and Talent at Juro
Thomas Forstner, VP of People and Talent at Juro, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about building an AI-native company, why HR should own workflows not just the workforce, and how people teams must evolve from playbook followers to visionary architects of the modern org. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Request
Helen Russell, Chief People Officer at HubSpot, joined us on The Modern People Leader. We talked about how HubSpot is fostering an AI-first culture, why belonging is so important right now, and what HR leaders can do to move fast without losing their humanity. ---- Sponsor Links: 🔗 Get your free 30-day Synthesia acc